{"id":87,"date":"2006-12-08T22:57:00","date_gmt":"2006-12-08T22:57:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/brianmashburn.net\/?p=87"},"modified":"2006-12-08T22:57:00","modified_gmt":"2006-12-08T22:57:00","slug":"secret-life-feedback-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/?p=87","title":{"rendered":"Secret Life Feedback #10"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div dir=ltr align=left><font face=Arial><span class=338211015-06122006>I got an  &#8220;amen&#8221; from a good friend of mine today about the redundancy of all this  feedback on by email entitled, &#8220;My Secret Life of Discipleship&#8221;. As promised,  I&#8217;ll assemble one more concerning the use of the word &#8220;Secret&#8221; in this&#8230;as it  has caused some good questions and deserves explanation and  clarification&#8230;<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><span class=338211015-06122006><\/span><\/font>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><font size=2><span class=338211015-06122006>&#8220;<\/span>I keep  finding these brothers and sisters all over the place who are struggling with  the same things that I am&#8230; and the only explanation I have is that God&#8217;s  Spirit is at work!<span class=338211015-06122006>&#8221; &#8211; 45ish brother, minister in  the Church of Christ up North<\/span><\/font><\/font><\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><font face=Arial  size=2><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><font face=Arial size=2>&#8220;We all need to  recognize we are on the same side &#8211; just have different perspectives.&nbsp; But  we have to be careful about drawing lines, alienating one another over our  differences and seek at least an understanding &#8211; though I don&#8217;t think we have to  agree on everything.&nbsp; HOWEVER, I will protect my family from legalism and  fight it tooth and nail every step in the way.&#8221; &#8211; 35ish sister, life-long member  of the Church of Christ<\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><font face=Arial  size=2><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006> <\/p>\n<div><font face=Arial><font size=2><span  class=338211015-06122006>&#8220;<\/span>Perhaps I am ignorant because I am not a member  of the Church of Christ, but it would seem to me that you all have the same  goals in mind.&nbsp; Why all the politics in loving Christ?<span  class=338211015-06122006> <\/span>I find it interesting that the Church (for any  religion) would risk alienating such devoted members, whose sole purpose in life  has been to be like Christ in their actions, thoughts, and deeds.&nbsp; I would  ask the question:&nbsp; Do the governing members of your church interpret His  teachings in this fashion?&nbsp; If so, why would anyone want to be a  member?<span class=338211015-06122006> <\/span>Just an outsider looking in<span  class=338211015-06122006>&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; 35ish buddy of mine that I was lucky enough to  meet in Skydiving school 8 years ago<\/span><\/font><\/font><\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><span class=338211015-06122006><font  face=Arial size=2><\/font><\/span><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><font size=2><font face=Arial><span  class=338211015-06122006>&#8220;<\/span>Walking like Christ means that the &#8220;rules&#8221; are,  in a way, irrelevant because if we are walking with him, we will be walking in  the spirit. Will the spirit of Christ lead us astray? I don&#8217;t think so. Thus,  the &#8220;rules&#8221; take care of themselves.&#8221; &#8211; 40ish brother, life-long member of  Church of Christ<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><font face=Arial  size=2><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><font face=Arial  size=2>&#8220;It&nbsp;is&nbsp;difficult to get the language just right so that we are  all seeing&nbsp;[obedience to rules]&nbsp;as a natural consequence of our  surrender to Him.&#8221; &#8211; 60ish sister, life-long member of Church of  Christ<\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><font face=Arial  size=2><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><span class=970364522-28112006><font  face=Arial size=2>&#8220;Loving God; loving each other&#8212;on these two commands, which  act as a curtain rod, hang the law and the prophets. Obedience every time it is  called for happens as we do these two commands. Talk about idealistic&#8212;That is  our God&#8211;idealistic. And, as I focus on these two commands, so goes my  obedience.&#8221; &#8211; 60ish sister, life-long member of the Church of  Christ<\/font><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><span class=970364522-28112006><font  face=Arial size=2><\/font><\/span><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><span class=970364522-28112006><font  face=Arial size=2>&#8220;I wish this had been my post. It&#8217;s everything that&#8217;s been  firing around in my brain and heart for the last few years&#8211;finally put into a  written, coherent format.&#8221; &#8211; 30ish sister, life-long member of the Church of  Christ<\/font><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><span class=970364522-28112006><font  face=Arial size=2><\/font><\/span><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><span class=970364522-28112006><font  face=Arial size=2>&#8220;I don&#8217;t belong to the Church of Christ denomination, but I do  belong to the Church of Christ. And I think believers in several denominations  will agree with much of what you write.&#8221; &#8211;  Unknown<\/font><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><span class=338211015-06122006><span  class=970364522-28112006><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><span class=338211015-06122006><span  class=970364522-28112006><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><font  color=#000000><span  class=338211015-06122006><\/span><\/font><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=338211015-06122006><span class=338211015-06122006><span  class=970364522-28112006><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><font  color=#000000><span class=338211015-06122006>&#8220;<\/span>I can honestly say that  this is the longest it has taken me to respond to an email.&nbsp; I have gone  through many, many emotions from the first time I read it, until the  14<sup>th<\/sup> time I re-read it.&nbsp; My first impression was one of  division, impatience and fear.&nbsp; I did not sleep much that first  night.&nbsp; I had a long, long conversation with our Lord in prayer and in his  Word.&nbsp; Each time I re-read the email, the qualities that I thought was  originally conveyed, diminished.&nbsp; Now, I see it as a plea of encouragement  and challenge.<span class=338211015-06122006>&#8221; &#8211; 55ish sister, life long member  of the Church of Christ<\/span><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=970364522-28112006><font size=2><font  face=Arial><\/font><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=970364522-28112006><font size=+0><font size=+0><font  face=Arial><font size=2><span class=338211015-06122006>&#8220;<\/span>A<span  class=338211015-06122006>s<\/span> I remember my own passion for the lawkeeping,  I heard less, whether taught or not, of loving God and loving others. Focusing  on lawkeeping kept me in fear of losing the love of God. So, as I walked in  fear, I had little ability to love with the God kind of love. In fact, with the  understanding I have today, I am amazed about my sons. As all of them know God  in deeper ways than I did when I was &#8220;raising&#8221; them. I know God in deeper ways  than my parents and grandparents. So, I am fully aware how much God keeps that  which I have committed (myself and my children) unto Him.<span  class=338211015-06122006>&#8221; &#8211; 60ish sister, life-long member of the Church of  Christ<\/span><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=970364522-28112006><span class=338211015-06122006><font  face=Arial size=2><\/font><\/span><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=970364522-28112006><span class=338211015-06122006><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\">&#8220;Somehow, you climbed inside my head  and heart and wrote down my innermost thoughts and feelings in a most eloquent  way.&#8221; &#8211; 40ish brother, and member of the Church of Christ academic community  <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=970364522-28112006><span class=338211015-06122006><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><\/span><\/span><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=970364522-28112006><span class=338211015-06122006><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\">You put into words my thoughts. I  love the church and I appreciate everyone in my background that taught me so  much. I am especially grateful for those who taught me grace . I have a sign on  my office doorway that says,&#8221;I AM STILL LEARNING&#8221;. &#8211;&nbsp;50ish minister  of&nbsp;Church of Christ in the South<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=970364522-28112006><span class=338211015-06122006><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><font color=#000000><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><span  class=338211015-06122006><\/span><\/span><\/font><\/span><\/span><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><font color=#000000><span class=970364522-28112006><span  class=338211015-06122006><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><span  class=338211015-06122006>&#8220;<\/span><font color=#000000>Since I have emailed you I  read all of your responses. That is incredible. I am so glad that you posted  your article and the responses.<\/font><span class=338211015-06122006>  <\/span><\/span><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><font color=#000000>I  shared your blog with several friends and family and my brother in law wrote  back and said that he is in tears over it. It<\/font> <font color=#000000>really  touched him in an area where he has been wrestling with God<span  class=338211015-06122006>..<\/span><\/font><\/span><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><font color=#000000>My  story&#8230; it is a fun one. Believe it or not,<\/font> <font color=#000000>I have  been baptized 28 times for religious reasons. The friend of mine that sent me  your blog says that when I arrive in Heaven that Naaman will be presenting me a  plaque.&#8221; &#8211;<\/font><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><br \/><span  class=338211015-06122006><font face=Arial size=2>&#8212; A brother, age unknown,  member of the Church of Christ<\/font><\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div>\n<p class=MsoNormal><span class=338211015-06122006><font face=Arial size=2>&#8220;Wow!  I thought I was the only one that felt that way. I am truly glad to see there  are others that are having this same struggle. It has been hard being alone with  these heavy concerns. I am in a very conservative congregation and sometimes  feel like I am suffocating. However, I also feel great compassion for and  responsibility to the members. I only wonder how long I can continue like this.&#8221;  &#8211; Anonymous<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=MsoNormal><span class=338211015-06122006><\/span><span  class=338211015-06122006><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><span  class=220504914-07122006><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=3><span  class=344402916-07122006><font face=Arial size=2>&#8220;Unlike most of your bloggers,  my wife and I&nbsp;made a clean&nbsp;break from&nbsp;the church of Christ some  30 years ago when we discovered that arrogance was not one of the fruits of the  Spirit.&nbsp; Having been brought up in a church of Christ home and having  attended two &#8220;Christian&#8221; colleges, I began to see through some of the  prejudicial positions.&nbsp; That made me question whether any of it was  true.&nbsp; With reference ONLY to the Scriptures, I reexamined one matter after  another, and some of our conclusions were distressing.&nbsp; We are living proof  that there is life after death.&#8221; &#8211;a 71-year-old Jesus  freak<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I got an &#8220;amen&#8221; from a good friend of mine today about the redundancy of all this feedback on by email entitled, &#8220;My Secret Life of Discipleship&#8221;. 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