{"id":85,"date":"2006-12-05T21:10:00","date_gmt":"2006-12-05T21:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/brianmashburn.net\/?p=85"},"modified":"2006-12-05T21:10:00","modified_gmt":"2006-12-05T21:10:00","slug":"secret-life-feedback-8","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/?p=85","title":{"rendered":"Secret Life Feedback #8"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div><font face=Arial><span class=406380900-05122006>Some more feedback from the  blog\/email I wrote entitled, &#8220;My Secret Life of Discipleship&#8221;. I had a good  shepherd ask me why I was posting so much feedback. He said it&#8217;s starting to  sound redundant&#8230;that the point has been made&#8230;and he is probably right if the  point is the CONTENT of the essay.<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><span class=406380900-05122006><\/span><\/font>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><span class=406380900-05122006>But now, the point of all  the feedback I am getting is the AMOUNT of people who resonate with the content  of the essay. That is why I&#8217;m still posting.<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><span class=406380900-05122006><\/span><\/font>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><span class=406380900-05122006>I guess that will help me  to think about stopping, but I&nbsp;want everyone to get a taste of the  overwhelming response I got to this post. And the wide array of  ages\/personalities that identify with it (although&nbsp;most of&nbsp;the posts  below are in the 35-45 age range).<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><span class=406380900-05122006><\/span><\/font>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><span class=406380900-05122006>I haven&#8217;t posted a fraction  of the feedback I&#8217;ve received.<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><span class=406380900-05122006><\/span><\/font>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><span class=406380900-05122006>What am I to learn from  this? What are we to learn from this?<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><span class=406380900-05122006><\/span><\/font>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><span class=406380900-05122006>I&#8217;ll have to post a few  more&#8230;<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><span  class=406380900-05122006><\/span><\/font>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p><font face=Arial><span  class=406380900-05122006> <\/p>\n<p class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span  style=\"COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma\"><span  class=406380900-05122006><font size=+0><font size=+0><span  class=406380900-05122006><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><font  color=#000000><span class=406380900-05122006>&#8220;<\/span>Wow&#8230;.I wonder if you were  looking inside my head when you wrote this.&nbsp; I struggle with this stuff  word for word in some cases.&nbsp; I always use this passage (Ephesians 4:2,3)  as a reason not to change so that I don&#8217;t upset people, but I think it is more  of an excuse not to boldly follow Christ and therefore not cut the strings that  keep me attached. Now that I read it in context, verse 1 says to live a life  worthy of the calling you have received, and I think I am sacrificing that to  satisfy verse 2 and 3. It is something I struggle with and I don&#8217;t have the  answers. &nbsp;For now, like you, I will continue to pray and seek God more and  more each day striving to imitate Christ and share His love with others one day  at a time.&nbsp; Thanks for your encouraging words.&nbsp; It is nice to know  that others feel the same as I do.&nbsp; I think I am going to go spend some  time in prayer now just for some good God-Contact.&#8221; &#8211; 35ish youth minister,  life-long member of the Church of Christ<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<div><font color=#000000><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><font size=2>&#8220;<\/font><\/span><font size=2>I have felt much the same way for  years but was not sure really how to deal with these emotions or if they are  valid enough to be concerned about.&nbsp; I was baptized when I was 9 yrs old  and felt like I have done all the &#8220;right&#8221; things.&nbsp;&nbsp;A few years ago  after getting married and starting on that journey we call adulthood, I began to  wonder &#8220;Is this all there is to the Christian life?&#8221;&nbsp; Go to church on  Sunday and Wed, sing some songs, pray, communion, listen to the preacher, go  home, sometimes have a fellowship dinner, gospel meeting once, or twice a year  if we were really about God&#8217;s business, but very seldom ever talked Jesus  outside the walls of the &#8220;Sanctuary&#8221;&nbsp; How much we were missing.<span  class=406380900-05122006> <\/span>I feel&nbsp;sometimes that I am a beginner  Christian again.&nbsp;&nbsp;Past the milk stage and&nbsp;now ready for the Meat  when I thought I had been a Meateater for years.&nbsp; Guess it was just  oatmeal.&nbsp; It has become easier to at least &#8220;talk Jesus&#8221; when I am about  among peers.&nbsp; I always had the feeling that if I ever mentioned  the&nbsp;Good News that I would be looked at&nbsp;as being Holier than thou  because I&nbsp;was a &#8220;Church of Christer&#8221; and we have always thought  we&nbsp;were &#8220;Right&#8221;.&nbsp; I have found that some of my Methodist friends are  not so different in their goals as we are with ours and in some respects seem to  be ahead me.&nbsp; I have had some really good conversations with them that I  never had with friends &#8220;in the Church&#8221;.&nbsp; What a sad confession.<span  class=406380900-05122006> <\/span>Do you mind if I share your article with some  family members of mine?&nbsp; I know some are in the same boat but are not sure  how to exactly deal with some of this.<span class=406380900-05122006>&#8221; &#8211; 40ish  brother, life long member of the Church of Christ<\/span><\/font><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font size=2><span class=406380900-05122006><\/span><\/font>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=406380900-05122006><font color=#000000><font  color=#000000><span  style=\"COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma\"><span  class=406380900-05122006> <\/p>\n<p class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma\"><font  color=#000000><font face=Arial>&#8220;I could resonate to some of those situations,  thoughts or ideas, and feelings.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp;  <\/span>You mentioned about (loving) &#8220;dialogue&#8221;, which is more humane than having  a discussion.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>Dialogue is more of  the &#8220;heart&#8221; without bypassing the mind than just mere discussion, which has the  tendency to more rational and usually stays on the &#8220;mind level&#8221;.&nbsp;Your words  are always &#8220;of Christ&#8221;.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>That&#8217;s  really wonderful. Again, religion is not an issue but of faith.&nbsp;I like your  words saying that less educated members or people are more devoted to the Divine  Mater than some who have a Masters of Divinity.<span  style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>It is ironic sometimes that we can be a  &#8220;fan&#8221; of Christ instead of being or becoming a &#8220;follower&#8221; of Christ.<span  style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>We can say a lot of things or ideas  &#8220;about&#8221; Christ especially who have gone for further studies but sans the  theological studies cannot ignore the &#8220;real or actual&#8221; experience &#8220;of&#8221; God.<span  style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>However, there is always a desire that a  theology from above could meet with a theology from below.<span  style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>It is my ardent desire, too, that we can  see both Christ as God (the Theology from above) and Christ as human who is also  God (the theology from below) and so he is fully divine and fully  human.&nbsp;Please, never lose that sight and your steadfast love for your  Church and be the Church you pray to be, that is, &#8220;of Christ&#8221;.&nbsp;Let us  always abide in the love and care of God.&#8221; &#8211; 40ish Monk friend of mine, from the  Philippines, who resides&nbsp;at &#8220;Christ in the Desert Monastery&#8221;, where I spent  3 days last August<span  class=406380900-05122006>.<\/span><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma\"><font  face=Arial color=#000000><span  class=406380900-05122006><\/span><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/span><\/font><\/font><span  style=\"COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma\"><span  class=406380900-05122006><span class=406380900-05122006><font  size=2><\/font><\/span><\/span><\/span> <\/p>\n<p class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span  style=\"COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma\"><span  class=406380900-05122006><font face=Arial><font size=2><font color=#000000><span  class=406380900-05122006>&#8220;<\/span>I&#8217;m pretty convinced that legalism is not  unique to &#8216;our&#8217; movement and seems to be a vulnerability to most who follow  Christ. It is much easier-and probably more&nbsp;immediately affirming-to align  yourself with a set of rules than put your full weight on Jesus. More than  anything&nbsp;else my tendency to find the easy way, &#8216;play the system&#8217;, and just  generally be lazy, lends itself to the least resistant, less thoughtful less  faith-full,&nbsp;path of&nbsp;<span  class=406380900-05122006>l<\/span>egalism.&nbsp;<span  class=406380900-05122006>You<\/span>r&nbsp;writing&nbsp; and the Spirit has  stoked alot within me.<span class=406380900-05122006>&#8221; &#8211; 40ish brother, life  long member of the Church of  Christ<\/span><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span  style=\"COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma\"><span  class=406380900-05122006><font face=Arial><font size=2><span  class=406380900-05122006><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/span>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span  style=\"COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma\"><span  class=406380900-05122006><font><font><span class=406380900-05122006> <\/p>\n<div><font face=Arial><font size=2><font color=#000000>I&nbsp;am a&nbsp;along  time member on the Church of Christ. I was&nbsp;absent&nbsp;for a long time (15  yrs or so)&nbsp;and the reasons&nbsp;I stayed gone so long were a lot of the  same ones you have listed here. I know that it was not right, but I let my pride  and belief that I was right keep me away. It truly seems that you have jumped  into my head and pulled out all of my buried thoughts.<span  class=406380900-05122006> <\/span>However, I have found myself going too far,  often by bashing as hard against them as I felt they were bashing me and my  beliefs.&nbsp;This too is wrong, as you have pointed out&#8230; I love this church  and I love the Lord our God.<span class=406380900-05122006>&#8221; &#8211; 45ish brother,  life long member of the Church of  Christ<\/span><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/div>\n<p><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/span> <\/p>\n<p class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span  style=\"COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma\"><span  class=406380900-05122006><font><font><font><span class=406380900-05122006><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><\/span><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/span>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span  style=\"COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma\"><span  class=406380900-05122006><font><font><font><span class=406380900-05122006><span  style=\"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial\"><font color=#000000>&#8220;I  just wanted to take a minute to say that you did a fantastic job of summing up  what so many of us are feeling.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>As someone who is often  called upon to write things to express group consensus, I found myself  constantly wishing that I&#8217;d written what I was reading, and grateful that you&#8217;d  summed it up so well.&#8221; &#8212; 25ish brother, life long member of the Church of  Christ<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some more feedback from the blog\/email I wrote entitled, &#8220;My Secret Life of Discipleship&#8221;. I had a good shepherd ask me why I was posting so much feedback. He said it&#8217;s starting to sound redundant&#8230;that the point has been made&#8230;and he is probably right if the point is the CONTENT of the essay. &nbsp; But [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_s2mail":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-85","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pO6nf-1n","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/85"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=85"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/85\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=85"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=85"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=85"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}