{"id":82,"date":"2006-11-29T17:32:00","date_gmt":"2006-11-29T17:32:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/brianmashburn.net\/?p=82"},"modified":"2006-11-29T17:32:00","modified_gmt":"2006-11-29T17:32:00","slug":"secret-life-feedback-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/?p=82","title":{"rendered":"&quot;Secret Life&quot; Feedback #5"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><font face=Arial><span class=970364522-28112006>More feedback from the  piece I sent out called &#8220;My Secret Life of Discipleship&#8221;. The long awaited (by  some) &#8220;negative&#8221; feedback begins in this one (3rd quote down)&#8230;but I prefer to  call it &#8220;challenging feedback&#8221; rather than negative. Because all of us want the  exact same thing&#8230;to be closer to God and to help others be closer to God&#8230;and  to understand&nbsp;one another in ever-increasing measure&#8230;for our good and  God&#8217;s glory.<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><font size=2><span  class=970364522-28112006><\/span><\/font><\/font>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial><font size=2><span class=970364522-28112006>&#8220;<\/span>When  will we realize that God has never so much expected us to be correct in  everything (as if we ever can), as to believe Him, to trust Him, to want Him  above all else?&nbsp; Is the church as we see it today anything at all like the  church we see in Acts?&nbsp; Not even close!&nbsp; Are disciples of today  mirrors of their Master and Lord of the Gospels?&nbsp; Well, I can speak for  myself and say that although I long to so very much like Jesus, it is not hard  to recognize that I&#8217;m not even close either.&nbsp; But I do know whom I have  believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I&#8217;ve committed to Him  (myself).<span class=970364522-28112006>&#8221; &#8211; 65ish sister, life-long member of  the Church of Christ<\/span><\/font><\/font><\/div>\n<div><span class=970364522-28112006><font face=Arial  size=2><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=970364522-28112006><font face=Arial size=2>&#8220;Your article said  so many of the things I have been struggling with over the past few  months\/years. I, too, like some of the others have considered changing churches  to find one that more closely resembles my heart&#8217;s desire. But I also sense God  telling me to stay and work for change&#8230;if we all left, would it be better? I&#8217;m  not sure. But, anyway, thanks.&#8221; &#8211; a late 20&#8217;s girl&#8230;life-long member of the  Church of Christ&#8230;seeking Him more than ever before <\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=970364522-28112006><font face=Arial  size=2>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p><\/font><\/span> <\/p>\n<div><span class=970364522-28112006><font face=Arial size=2>&#8220;We broke away from  a congregation years ago that was judging, comparing and accusing others in the  &#8216;church&#8217; but it was in the opposite direction of what your article  described!!!!!&nbsp;In my opinion,&nbsp;what you have described is&nbsp;about as  far to the extreme as our &#8220;legalists&#8221; brethren. The article seems to imply that  the Bible is OK or has had it&#8217;s place but all that is needed is to love  everybody and guard against <em>residual teaching that resembles anything  legalistic whatsoever and are preparing to help our kids  unlearn&nbsp;it&#8230;.<\/em>exactly what is residual teaching?&nbsp; Everything in  the Bible better be taught, caught and learned &#8212; EVERYTHING!&nbsp;  <u>Anyone<\/u> who tries to pick and choose what fits them is treading on very  thin ice.&nbsp; I truly believe the &#8216;<u>extremes&#8217; <\/u>are both wrong&#8212;yet both  need to be taught from the pulpit and are necessary for total knowledge,  comprehension and understanding of God&#8217;s teachings.&nbsp; Go&nbsp;too far in  either direction, you not only lose sight of the other or begin to condemn\/judge  the other, but you&nbsp;have then&nbsp;established new  standards\/values\/morals\/expectations that are outside God&#8217;s presentation of the  complete Gospel!&nbsp; That&#8217;s when someone better stand up and remind both  extremes that our awesome, powerful God is also a God of wrath and the final  Word will be His.&nbsp; The one-on-one&#8212;very personal and intimate love  relationship with God is essential for salvation, but equally essential is a  clear understanding of His ways and His laws.&nbsp; Call it &#8216;legalist&#8217; if you  will, but everyone better understand it and be obeying it DAILY.&nbsp; Why else  would we have LAWS!!!!!&nbsp; How would one know they were living sin were it  not for the LAW!&nbsp; We need to strive to follow the laws\/rules\/ examples God  set before us on how to conduct our daily lives &#8212;-&nbsp;and to&nbsp;love  others and put their needs before our own.&nbsp; I do believe there is a Pattern  for the church and I believe we are going to be held accountable&nbsp;for  following it&#8230;.My fear is that the next generation will never hear the  rules\/laws&#8212;&#8212;-just like a lot in the previous generation never heard about  the Christ-like love that is a MUST.&nbsp; Where&#8217;s the middle, Brian.&nbsp;  Where is the compromise of the extremes?&nbsp; It&#8217;s in the Word.&nbsp; It must  all be taught, analyzed and followed.&nbsp; ALL OF IT!&nbsp; I will see to it  that my grandchildren hear it ALL.&nbsp; I pray that the Gospel is kept pure for  the generations to come.&#8221; &#8211; 60ish sister, life-long member of the Church of  Christ<\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=970364522-28112006><font face=Arial  size=2><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=970364522-28112006> <\/p>\n<div><font face=Arial><font size=2><span class=970364522-28112006>&#8220;<\/span>I just  got around to reading your longer thoughts on &#8220;The Church&#8221;.&nbsp; Just know our  staff is committed to the exact same thing.&nbsp;The most amazing thing is how  open our church is to exploring the life of Christ with the intent to imitate  what we find.&nbsp; My prayer is God will lead all of us to a Christ centered  ministry where He is the only factor of relevance!&nbsp; Not the sign on our  building, where and what we have our education in, over analyzed word study that  most were limited in their understanding to start, I&#8217;ll just stop&nbsp;the list  of unnecessaries there.&nbsp; Sign me up!&nbsp; I&#8217;m with ya.<span  class=970364522-28112006>&#8221; &#8211; 30ish preacher of a Church of Christ in  Oklahoma<\/span><\/font><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font face=Arial size=2><\/font>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>More feedback from the piece I sent out called &#8220;My Secret Life of Discipleship&#8221;. The long awaited (by some) &#8220;negative&#8221; feedback begins in this one (3rd quote down)&#8230;but I prefer to call it &#8220;challenging feedback&#8221; rather than negative. 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