{"id":136,"date":"2008-02-07T16:23:00","date_gmt":"2008-02-07T16:23:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/brianmashburn.net\/?p=136"},"modified":"2008-02-07T16:23:00","modified_gmt":"2008-02-07T16:23:00","slug":"immature-or-premature","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/?p=136","title":{"rendered":"Immature or Premature?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><font face=Arial><em><span class=901350515-07022008>&#8220;<\/span>I always know a  mature, wise person by how &#8220;comfortably unsure&#8221; they are of things &#8211;&nbsp;not in  a cynical, pessimistic, self-deprecating kind of way, but in an open,  inquisitive, delightedly and delightfully&nbsp;curious kind of way.&nbsp; They  take their time with questions that solicit their opinions, often not answering  them at all, knowing that the question can be an old ego-trap.&nbsp; And&nbsp;I  always know an ignorant or immature person by how certain, make that downright  cocksure they are of things &#8211; not in a humble, gently confident kind of way, but  in a condescending, critical,&nbsp;and dismissive kind of way.&nbsp; They have  the answer almost immediately, even before the question is asked.&nbsp; We often  fail to realize what we are revealing about ourselves, at least to&nbsp;anyone  who is really paying attention to and somewhat experienced in the subtleties of  human nature, when we come across as immediately sure about things and\/or about  other people&#8217;s issues and shortcomings.&nbsp; And we can&#8217;t fake wisdom,  especially when things get heated; the performance just doesn&#8217;t hold up in the  flame of human conflict&nbsp;and melts away like wax in the fire.&nbsp;We really  don&#8217;t know very much about what makes other people tick (if we&#8217;re honest, we&#8217;re  usually not even totally sure about what makes us tick in the moment), and if  they just plain &#8220;tick us off,&#8221; then there&#8217;s probably something pretty  significant going on inside us that we just haven&#8217;t discovered yet.&nbsp;  &#8220;Dismissing or dissing&#8221; others when confronted by these unknowns is a sign of  immaturity, laziness, or a very tired, over-busy mind.&nbsp; Time and experience  (in the form of many painful relationship breakdowns and failures) will take  care of this eventually, if you let it, which is the first sign of wisdom.&nbsp;  When you&#8217;re up to it, you will start asking yourself the million dollar question  first, &#8220;What am I doing or not doing to contribute to this situation that I  don&#8217;t like?&#8221; and that is always the most self-responsible approach to any  problem relationship, and&nbsp;it seems to come naturally only with experience,  maturity, and hard-earned wisdom.<\/em><\/font><span  class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><em>&#8220;<\/em><\/font> <font face=Arial>&#8211;  Jim Spivey<\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><em>&#8220;I press on to take  hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers, I do not consider  myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is  behind and straining toward what is ahead,&nbsp;I press on toward the goal to  win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ  Jesus.&nbsp;<\/em><\/font><\/span><span class=901350515-07022008><font  face=Arial><em>All of us who are mature should take such a view of things. And  if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to  you.&nbsp;Only let us live up to what we have already attained.&#8221;<\/em> &#8211; St. Paul  in Phil 3:12-16&nbsp;<br \/><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><em>&#8220;The difference  between&nbsp;those who&nbsp;are immature and those who are premature is that the  premature eventually mature.&#8221; &#8211;&nbsp;<\/em>Yours  truly<em>&nbsp;<\/em><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font  size=2><\/font>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p><\/font><\/span> <\/p>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>As I search  for the clues that Jim and Paul look for to identify the &#8220;mature&#8221; in the quotes  above, I find these:<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font  size=2><\/font><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial size=2>The  mature&#8230;<\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;are  comfortable with not knowing what they don&#8217;t know, and are always open to the  idea that what they know may be (partially or completely)  wrong.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;do not make  a point of proving to everyone that they are humble through any form of  self-criticism.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;when  convicted that something is true, state it humbly and with gentle  confidence.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;are very  aware of their own ego, and the constant threat it is to their own cratering to  it.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;know that  &#8220;how they are&#8221; is revealing their character much more than &#8220;what they know or  do&#8221;.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;see all  problems that they &#8220;feel&#8221; or &#8220;have&#8221; with others is firstly and primarily the  discovery of a growth area for themselves.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;have  stepped into, been hurt by, survived, and stepped into again and again very  messy relationships and learn from each one, and value the process of doing  so.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;know with  absolute confidence that Christ Jesus has taken hold of them, for their good,  and for their constant refinement, which is nothing to  fear.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;&#8221;press on,&#8221;  joining Christ&#8217;s energy with all of&nbsp;their&nbsp;own, to share in the joy of  constantly becoming more wise (not be confused with becoming more  knowledgeable).<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;have no  need for other people to agree with them on anything, even on this list of what  makes someone mature, confident that God himself loves that person enough to  &#8220;grow them up&#8221; too, making all things clear with little or no help from  them.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial size=2>The  immature&#8230;<\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;are  cynical, pessimistic, and self-deprecating about  themselves.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;do  not&nbsp;delight in &#8220;not knowing&#8221; things.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;answer  questions way to quickly and forcefully, almost daring others to  disagree.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;are  condescending, critical, and dismissive.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font  size=2>&#8230;are&nbsp;fairly sure about, critical of, and sarcastic about other  people&#8217;s issues and shortcomings.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;either fail  miserably, over-exert, check-out&nbsp;or just don&#8217;t show up when things get  heated, messy, or emotional.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;instead of  letting&nbsp;our issues with others prompt fearless self-discovery, just let  those other people &#8220;tick&nbsp;them off&#8221;<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;think that  &#8220;appearing wise right now&#8221; is far too important to&nbsp;just engage with  life&nbsp;as it comes, trusting that it&#8217;s difficulties are giving me the wisdom  I want<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;do not put  their confidence in the undisputable, unalterable, untouchable fact that Christ  Jesus holds them and is doing exactly what he wants, and that they can&#8217;t mess  him up with their grandest mistakes, and that they are right where they need to  be in every given moment.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;do not  &#8220;forget what is behind&#8221;, and instead carry their guilt, shame, and fear with  them everywhere, infecting everything<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>&#8230;do not  &#8220;press on&#8221; towards&nbsp;anything that might be&nbsp;ahead, so scared that they  might lose what has already been attained.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font  size=2><\/font><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>I&#8217;m glad to  confess that I can recognize that &#8220;mature guy&#8221; inside of me, and he is growing.  And I am sad, but not defeated, to confess that I can recognize that &#8220;immature  guy&#8221; inside of me as well, but he is dying.&nbsp;If I could&nbsp;draw  a&nbsp;line graph&nbsp;measuring the strength and forcefulness of the immature  guy inside of me over my lifetime, it would show a steady downward trend, with  occasional, but brief, spikes upward (the days that I find myself particularly  vulnerable and weak and self-indulgent). And the downward trend is getting  increasingly steep, moving exponentially downward, giving me the very real hope  that Paul speaks of&#8230;&#8221;the prize&#8221;.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font  size=2><\/font><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>And the mature  guy &#8220;presses on&#8221; towards it, moving exponentially faster &#8220;heavenward in Christ  Jesus&#8221;.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font  size=2><\/font><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>What a ride!  And I am totally clear that I have absolutely nothing else to focus on and &#8220;do&#8221;  in life, and need to coerce nothing from anyone around me to succeed in  it.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font  size=2><\/font><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>But I offer  myself to Christ, not because I think I have value, but because I know that  Christ knows better than me, and I trust him more than me, and he says that I do  have value.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font  size=2><\/font><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>And I offer  myself to the world, not mindlessly or on its terms, but intentionally and  soberly&nbsp;and lovingly, and according to what I discern my calling to&nbsp;be  from Christ&#8230;to be weak, willing, honest, and courageous in every single  relationship that&nbsp;God sends my way in order to help them become more like  Christ, and to&nbsp;help the world become more like the&nbsp;Christ&#8217;s  Kingdom.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><font size=2>I (the  immature I) must die every day to this, and have found it to be the hardest part  of my life, and the only one that gives me life. So I (the mature I) put myself  (the immature self) on the alter before God every day, wondering why he would  accept such a meager offering as love for Him, but grateful that He accepts it  and delivers Himself right back to me.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial  size=2><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial size=2>It sure isn&#8217;t a fair  trade. But I would stupid to turn it down.<\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font face=Arial><\/font><\/span>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span class=901350515-07022008><font  face=Arial>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p><\/font><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;I always know a mature, wise person by how &#8220;comfortably unsure&#8221; they are of things &#8211;&nbsp;not in a cynical, pessimistic, self-deprecating kind of way, but in an open, inquisitive, delightedly and delightfully&nbsp;curious kind of way.&nbsp; They take their time with questions that solicit their opinions, often not answering them at all, knowing that the question [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_s2mail":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-136","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pO6nf-2c","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/136"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=136"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/136\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=136"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=136"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.brianmashburn.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=136"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}